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Selecting Crowns, a second reply attempt
- To: atlantia@csc.ncsu.edu
- Subject: Selecting Crowns, a second reply attempt
- From: "David H Ritterskamp" <dhritter@dpcmail.dukepower.com>
- Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 09:45:49 EST
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- Organization: The Merry Rose Folx- I don't know what happened to the first one; as you can see from the attempts at posting the Fool's War flier, something is badly wrong with the text editor. I would warn all of you not to cut and paste any text from previous messages unless you have that cute little text editor that puts the little >>'s in front of the text... Take Two, and if I don't get the complete text of this message mailed back to me, I'll know something's wrong... -J. Blackbow Leifr wrote (and I'll reply point by point): Well, it seems to me that the point and problem with the system is that we WANT Kings who are both popular, and capable of handling the theatric aspects of the job (see Master James' latest missive). Being a territorial prince FIRST, as I suggested elsewhere, and then chosing between them for the best candidate I think is a nifty way of achieving this. (Popular, yes; politically popular, not necessarily. I can think of several people who are popular, and yet not politically good choices, the vagaries of politics being what they are. Do you really want to leave the Crown up to popular vote? If this is attempted, I foresee (putting hand to forehead in full 'fortuneteller' motif) candidates being 'elected', declaring 'platforms', 'reforms', etc., in short, all the BS that goes along with mundane politics today. NOT my idea of fun.) I think the Princes should be asked first if they can agree on one of them being King. (See above.) Then, if that doesn't produce a consensus, I think the Landed Barons should act as Electors, and vote for their choice as King (if a couple disagrees, half a vote each). (See above.) If you can't get 2/3rds of the Baronies to agree (that's 9 votes, right now), Then, by god, let the Candidates have a war. (That would be my first option rather than the last option.) I suspect we would get a war once every two or three years, with different principalities aligning differently each time. That would reduce the common problem of lingering hard feelings, and would give us a variety of means for selecting our Crown. (I mostly agree here; I once wondered aloud why there weren't more events simulating 'border wars', with factions and the like, and was told that if that were to happen, pretty soon there'd be real factions developing, and bad feelings because So And So kicked our butts last time, so it's us against them, and...etc. Anything that avoids lingering hard feelings is a good thing. Anything that PRECLUDES hard feelings is even better.) NEXT! Alfredo writes: I would like to clarify that my idea was a series of Crown Tourneys that are as _open_ as the current single Crown Tourney. Lord Leifr suggestion that Coronet Tourneys lead to a King would require a change in Corpora as well as dividing all of Atlantia into Principalities. Lord Jonathan's regional-candidate idea would also require a change in Corpora. Furthermore, I believe that regional competition for tangible results (rather than brag rights) fosters Bad Blood. (First, I feel compelled to mention that I don't know enough about Corpora to say this with complete certainty. HOWEVER...I clearly wasn't specific enough about it. Take Two... A Northern, Central, Southern setup doesn't necessarily mean that Joe Northern can't compete in Southern's tourney, just that if he, oh, say, fails to win Northern's and really feels that he's a viable candidate, he can drive (quick! examine that man) to Southern's [or Central's] tourney, possibly win, and be the 'Southern' candidate. Sorry, Alfredo-mea culpa on that one. I would be the LAS
- Posted-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 09:45:49 EST
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T person to
advocate choosing candidates based on Region...then we really would
have a nasty situation, with populace segments backing various
candidates for their geographical affinity, rather than for the
candidate they truly believed to be worthy.
On the other hand, if Joe Northern drove down to Southern's tourney,
that would be a plus for him in my book; he's showing that as a
Northern candidate he has the courage of his convictions to drive
clear down here in the lowlands to prove it [Vivat to HRH Galmr for
doing just that @ Gulf Wars and various other decidedly 'Southern'
events, and one of these days I plan to be as committed to a good time
to drive ungodly distances...[Black Tower, anyone? Raise your
hand...]
Sorry to wax this loquacious, but, hey, where ELSE is anybody going to
listen without being able to interrupt? ~(:->)
Last one:
Eogan quoth:
In response to Jonathan Blackbow's recent post,
I beleive that the most signifigant thing he said was "...a good time
had by all."
Just reminding everyone :)
(Why, thank you, Eogan. Remind me to buy you at least a beer after I
get down off this soapbox.
Remember, folx, I'm just exploring the current system and
brainstorming alternatives, primarily because if people were happy
with the current system, there wouldn't be much discussion on
alternatives, now would there?
...If the idea is good, it'll carry itself; if the idea is not good,
hey, that's what a discussion forum is for in the first place.
*sits back down, empties a large tankard, hands one to Eogan, and
settles back to watch the fireworks...*
l8r,
J. Blackbow
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