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Poster: Logan and Arielle <logan123@charlotte.infi.net> Received: from smtp.psc.dhhs.gov by mh102.infi.net with ESMTP (Infinet-S-3.3) id IAA09100; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:26:34 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: ASmith@psc.dhhs.gov Received: from boris.psc.dhhs.gov by smtp.psc.dhhs.gov (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id ED4BEBE0 ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 8:26:48 -0500 Received: from ccMail by boris.psc.dhhs.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.02 Enterprise) id 27605E60; Tue, 29 Oct 96 08:25:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:18:48 -0500 Message-ID: <27605E60.@psc.dhhs.gov> From: ASmith@psc.dhhs.gov (Alan Smith) To: dwarmory@aol.com, James.Toscano@den.mmc.com, mlonski@aol.com, thegambles@aol.com, baronessceri@prodigy.com, ccox@magus.stx.com, emerald7@his.com, glewweg@erols.com, jonesj@SunBelt.Net, sbrewer@imagicgames.com, ronnlee@clark.net, TimJacks@aol.com, bpanther@hops.cs.jhu.edu, gerlach@erols.com, web245@charweb.org, elsworth@erols.com Cc: bmorris@access.digex.net, logan123@charlotte.infi.net, moondrgn@flash.net Subject: Trimaris injury -- URGENT X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Greetings All, I am forwarding the following from the DSM for Rapier. As you can see from the above list, it is incomplete. PLEASE forward this to any other rapier marshalls you know, electronically or otherwise. I will be speaking with the Earl Marshall as soon as possible, and keeping their Majesties informed. I have offered Tivar any and all assistance we can provide -- I think we should be in the forefront with Triplette, because they are "ours", at least geographically. Tivar's first question to me was: Do you know who the "SCA specialists" are, who Triplette used to approve their SCA-style fencing jackets? Anyone who has any ideas on this is cordially invited to offer them, as I have no idea, and have so informed Tivar. My impression is that the causes of this injury, as outlined below, are being well handled in Atlantia at this time. We know that there are problems with Triplette blades and jackets, and inspect them with that in mind -- our functional test for impenetrable armor certainly would have turned up this faulty jacket. Tivar's re-emphasis is well taken, however. I will add nothing to his words, except to say that you should take them as if they issued from me, as well. Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fair Greetings, Oct. 28, A.S. XXXI, 1996 I found out earlier this evening about a near-fatal injury that happened last month in Trimaris. I have spoken to their rapier marshal, the fighter who was injured, and one off-field witness (I'm awaiting calls back from the other fighter and the marshal on the field.) The primary cause appears to be a Triplette Brand epee. As it was described to me, the final couple of inches are *extremely* thin metal, (approximately 1/8" thick). When the blade broke, it left a flat, but very thin end which penetrated the fighter's canvas jacket and pectoral muscle, hit a rib and then exited back out the muscle. Had the blade landed a centimeter higher or lower, it would have missed the rib and penetrated the chest cavity. A secondary cause of the break was simultaneous forward movement by both fighters, which aided in the classic "hit-bend-break-hit again" scenario that has caused at least two deaths in modern fencing. A contributing factor was the fact that the blade had kinked badly a week or so earlier. The marshal at the time had told the fighter to "use it only for practice" (meaning point-control work), but the fighter (who is very new) understood it to mean "don't use this blade in tournaments". The incident happened at a fighter practice. Another contributing factor may be the injured fighter's jacket. I'm getting conflicting reports as to it's suitability for SCA use. THEREFORE please emphasize to your marshals to: 1. Check *all* blades, especially Triplette epees, near the tip for excessive thinness. We cannot afford to have this happen again. 2. If a blade is permanently down-checked, it should be removed from the "gene pool" in some way. Spray paint it orange, ask the fighter to break it in your presence, I'm open to suggestions... I realize that buying a replacement blade is expensive, but if we lose a fighter due to negligence or outright stupidity, the chances are good that we will lose SCA rapier fighting as well. 3. You should also emphasize to your local marshals the importance of proper armor and weapons inspection at fighter practice, as well as tournaments. As I've said elsewhere: broken blades are stupid, they don't realize it's "only practice". -Tivar Moondragon Deputy Society Marshal for Rapier Combat Received: from smtp.psc.dhhs.gov (terminator.psc.dhhs.gov) by boris.psc.dhhs.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.02 Enterprise) id 275F82C0; Tue, 29 Oct 96 07:27:24 -0500 Received: from defiant (208.194.223.9) by smtp.psc.dhhs.gov (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 3996EE50 ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 0:43:38 -0500 Received: from moondrgn.flash.net (auasc1-135.flash.net [208.194.210.135]) by defiant (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA25991; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:43:08 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961029054444.006a8564@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: moondrgn@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:44:44 -0600 To: moondrgn@flash.net, ASmith@psc.dhhs.gov (Alan Smith), jakob@primenet.com (Jake Hoehl), cat_mcglothlin@sagepub.com, apyrich@concentric.net, wendyc@vivid.net (Wendy Colbert), BaronAOC@aol.com, campanel@ucsu.colorado.edu (Joseph Campanella), truffa@alaska.net (M Truffa (Alfonso d'Strada)), shayne.lynch@a1.cbr.hhcs.gov.au, Michael Ely <mely@freenet.columbus.oh.us> From: Chris and Elisabeth Zakes <moondrgn@flash.net> Subject: Trimaris injury ======================================================================= List Archives, FAQ, FTP: http://sca.wayfarer.org/merryrose/ Submissions: atlantia@atlantia.sca.org Admin. requests: majordomo@atlantia.sca.org
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