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New Peerage? (fwd)
Poster: firstname.lastname@example.org (Craig Levin)
> Poster: Scott Silvers/James of Westmorland <email@example.com>
> I am forwarding this letter to the Merry Rose because I found it
> to be an interesting proposition. Besides it will provide a different
> topic of discussion from the "Escorting Ladies/Boring Court" discussion
> that we've become entrenched in.
<shrug> It's all part of the soup.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:04:52 +22300454 (EST)
> From: Karen Stegmeier <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: [SCA Equestrian] New Peerage?
> Greetings, I am about to post a letter I recieved a month
> or so ago. By posting this I do not say that I agree or disagree,
> that comes later, but I do think that it is an issue that needs to
> be discussed and this household's proposition is as good a place to
> start as any. and we will see where it takes us. Please know that
> I copy this letter in its entirety unabridged and unedited, I am
> not a member of this household, nor do I speak for them-Isabeau
> The Order of the Courtier: A Proposal
> We have heard alot of talk lately about fencing and equestrian
> activities and how they should fit into the SCA hierarchy.
> We have noticed that the fencers are going through many of the
> growing pains that archers went through not very long ago. We also
> notice that the fencers won't be the last. The equestrians and the
> hound coursers are already growing in popularity, and we may see falconry
> take its place in the SCA (if it hasn't already in some places!).
> Indeed, Where do these activities fit in? All are good and noble
> activities, and each have many talented gentles involved. Some of these
> gentles are reaching (or have reached) the mastery and range of skills
> and attributes that call for peerage recognition. One can achieve
> such recognition in almost any area of expertise. Therefore, it should be
> that fencers, equestrians, etcetera should be able to become peers of one sort
> or another.
> But what order would suit these noble activities? The Laurel?
> These activities do not really fit in as an art or a science, and their
> practice certainly does not fall under A+S Criteria. They require
> authorization to participate and Marshal-type supervision to practice.
In theory, all activities can be considered arts or sciences. The
difference between an art and a science is, as the Philosopher
puts it, that the science has a body of knowledge separate of
mere technique. That is why heraldry is a science.
> What about the Chivalry? They require authorization and
> supervision, and they practice a physical activity that these noble
> activities would compliment well. And Horse-mastery is where the
> term "chivalry" came from! We have heard knight-hood suggested by some
> for fencers. However, we do not feel that this is quite appropriate,
> either. Even though we have heard talk of a "fencing king" or a
> "fencing crown tourney" we do not think that this would ever be considered
> the equal of a heavy weapons crown. The SCA has been forged with a
> heavy weapons Crown, and to alter this might be too much of a fundamental
Indeed. I would think that such a change might also annoy the
large party of quasi-Victorian romantics out there who feel that
fencing is out of bounds.
> It seems to us that there is a gap between knighthood and the
> Laurelate. between the practice of war and the arts and sciences, and
> in this gap is where we feel these noble and courtly activities fit.
I see no gap, perhaps, but I do think that the ars nobiliora of
falconry and horsemanship, amongst others, deserve to be
considered differently from the mechanic arts-as they were
before. See below:
> In the Middle Ages and Renaissance, the nobles serving at court
> would practice at activities for recreation and to keep their minds and
> bodies sharp. They would go hunting-ussually on horseback and using
> hounds or falcons. They would course the hounds for enjoyment.
> They would shoot Bow and arrow, either in contest or to hunt.
> They would fence, for enjoyment or to settle a dispute. These were
> all Noble activities that the people at court-or courtiers, would practice.
This is so-and I'd add heraldry into the pot as well.
Pedro de Alcazar, AoA
Barony of Storvik, Atlantia
Pursuivant Extraordinary and Junior Minion
Or, six Castles Vert within a Bordure Gules semy of Roundels Or
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