re: Scottish exploration of New World / Native American Persona

[Christoph Hintze <chhintze@bmd.clis.com>]

Poster: Christoph Hintze <chhintze@bmd.clis.com>

On 26 March 1997 you wrote:

>I wouldn't mind seeing the documentation whence you've taken this
>material. I've studied maritime history for several years now,
>and I don't recall running across this story. This is a pity, as
>I wrote my Master's thesis on fifteenth century English naval
>policy, and since the Scots had such...neighborly relations, I'm
>sure that rumors of a New World would have run far and wide-and
>made it into some of the PRO and BM documents I read.

If any one is interested here is a list of resourses that should be useful
in researching 14th century Scottish exploration of the New World:

There is a web page is at the following address:

http://www.mids.org/sinclair/600/

And here is a bibliography glened from a short period of time spent
exploring the above page and some others linked to it:

Prince Henry Sinclair Bibliography

Niccolo Zeno's The Voyages of The Zeno Brothers

Frederic J. Pohl's Prince Henry Sinclair, ISBN 505487, Library of Congress
No. 73-
79829, First American Addition published 1974, by Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. ,
419 Park
Avenue South, New York, NY. 10016 

Eastern United States Archaelogical Federation Bulletin No. 26, 1967

The Red and White Book of Clan Menzies, written by Saint David Menzies of Weem,
1425 

The Sinclair Diploma, written ca. 1410 

"Ancient Mysteries", 1993, by Robert Cahill 

"The Sword and the Grail", 1993, by Andrew Sinclair 

"The Hiram Key", 1996, by Knight & Lomas 

"Holy Blood, Holy Grail", 1983, by Baigent, Leigh, & Lincoln 

"The Guilds, The Masons, & The Rosy Cross", 1995, by Brydon 

"The Templar Legacy & the Masonic Inheritance within Rosslyn Chapel", 1995, by
Wallace-Murphy 

"Wee Sinclair Legends", 1994, by Cummings 

Bloodline of the Holy Grail, 1996, by Gardner, $35 

The Sword & the Grail, 1993, Andrew Sinclair, $30 

Templar Legacy & The Masonic Inheritance ..., 1995, Wallace-Murphy, $25 

The information about Pocahontas came from my encyclopedia:  

"Pocahontas", by Ray A Billington, Northwestern University, New Age
Encyclopedia (Encyclopedia International), Lexicon Publications, 1977

>I doubt this very strongly. Where's the doc's for this? We've got
>a very good idea of what lands the Templars held, thanks to the
>hearings at their dissolution, and I doubt that something as
>unusual as this would've escaped the ears of the recording clerk.

See above.

>Ah, but I shall. The Northmen never lingered as the Spaniard and
>the Portuguese would in later years, and cultural exchange of the
>level that we have to thank for Indian corn in Europe and tobacco
>in Turkey only developed at the very tail end of our period. I
>think we have to look at this much as one might at space
>exploration. Have we gone to the Moon? Sure! But do we regularly
>go there? No! Our presence on the Moon is about what many of
>these pre-Columbian contacts were-brief forays at the very limit
>of possibility, both in terms of technology and in terms of
>historicity, in most cases, the Moonshots excepted.

Point given.

>At the risk of raising your hackles and those of others, I'd say
>that an American Indian persona is very much a fringe character
>in the SCA. One might liken him not so much to the rugby player
>at an American football game like the Oriental, but rather to one
>who really thought it was a soccer game instead-both are
>"football," but...

I never  said that I thought that they sould become the regular normal
persona, but I did say that they were possible.  After what is a persona
othen than, someone who could have existed, not someone who did exist.

If there is anything else that I can do for you please do let me know.

In Service
Lord Christopher Storme of Kintail
residing in Cathanar, Atlantia
Scholar of the Acadimie d'Espee


p.s. I am sorry that it took me so long to respond to your message.  I
origanally tried to send it to you personaly (because I had already sent
this information to the Merry Rose, but my message to you bounced.  I
probably got the address wrong (clevin@ripco.com).

Once again into the fray

In Service
Lord Christopher Storme of Kintail
residing in Cathanar, Atlantia
Scholar of the Acadimie d'Espee


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