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Re: matching arms on the field (fwd)

Poster: clevin@ripco.com (Craig Levin)

Kendrick Wayfarer:

> On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Craig Levin wrote:
> > Generally, the "visitor" would do something to difference his
> > arms. Sometimes, it was just a bend drawn across the shield.
> And this could be done with a strip of duck tape.  (Surely someone
> on the field is bound to have duck tape.)

I'd say that the Cubs would go to the Series in the same year
that nobody in the SCA had any duct tape. <sigh>

> BTW, I've been watching this thread for a while and I must say something
> to all the people that attacked Tibor -- try learning to read.  Tibor
> never said that he didn't think that people should register their arms.
> All he said was that there is no requirement, which is absolutely true.
> If fact, he hasn't said anything as to what he *thinks* people should do
> with their arms.  The SCA is built upon honor and courtesy.  If we can't
> display honor and courtesy when someone is just quoting the rules, how
> can we expect to display it any other time.  At this point, I should
> probably commend Pedro, who even though he disagreed somewhat with Tibor,
> conducted himself very honorably.  Vivat!  And if nothing I've said
> makes you change your mind, just remember what Henry said: it's only a
> game.

I disagree with Tibor, partially because I see the heraldo-
jurisprudential issue of duplication (if not usurpation) of arms
in the SCA than I do the same issue in the Middle Ages. We
relocate more than our predecessors. I myself moved from the
Midrealm to here, and I can come up with entirely likely
scenarios for people to have resided in half a dozen kingdoms
and/or principalities at one point in time or another. Not even
during the best days of the Crusader states were people plucking
up their goods and plonking them down with such ease and
frequency. In this situation, considering the SCA as a single
heraldic jurisdiction simply makes sense to me. Besides, I can
also cite a precedent of a King of Arms having a jurisdiction over
a region that was subdivided into many independent states: Ruyers
KoA, in the Low Countries. Also, the Portuguese Kings of Arms had
jurisdiction over the (nominally separate) kingdom of the

Besides, sometimes it's fun to debate with Tibor. <grin>

Pedro de Alcazar, AoA
Barony of Storvik, Atlantia
Pursuivant Extraordinary and Junior Minion
Or, six Castles Vert within a Bordure Gules semy of Roundels Or
Craig Levin
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