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Poster: Karen@stierbach.atlantia.sca.org (Larsdatter, Karen )

Meghan wrote:

> Kat.....unfortunately, the "Irish dress" made popular by Chivarly
> Sports is out of period...by about 75 years...It was an "English
> plantation" or colonization style dress, based on what was worn by
> the English nobility in Ireland.  Normally, it would have been worn
> over a chemise and skirt, by the "household staff".  Sorry about
> that!

Really?  Then that would explain why similar dresses were found in 
illustrations of Irishwomen ca. 1575 ...

Among the "Celtic, Irish, and Scottish" Clothing and Costume Links on 
the Atlantian KMoAS webpages 
(http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/topics/clot.htm), there are a couple of 
links which address this style of costume, including:

Celtic Dress of the 16th Century

The Shinrone Gown

While the period illos (and the extant example) feature the "Irish 
dress" with sleeves (most of which seem to have been sewn into the 
arm-holes on the bodice), it's not *too* hard to imagine that some 
dresses may have been made without the sleeves.  Another thing that 
ladies of this period seem to have done was to line the overskirt in 
a wildly contrasting color, and to tuck the tips of the hem into the 

Ever impressed by those who have the amazing power to declare 
something to be out of period ;) I remain

Yours in Service to the Dream,

Karen Larsdatter
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