Re: Galen: courtly behavior

[Julien de Montfort <julien@spiaggia.org>]

Poster: Julien de Montfort <julien@spiaggia.org>

> > > 	My point is that I may not be alone in my expectations and
> misunderstanding of chivalry.  As women coming from a mundane world
>where any
>  offer of help is seen as an accusation of one's inability to meet
>the
> standards of men, and thus we are still paid less and receive less
>frequent
> promotions (although I admit this is getting better), I imagine many
>of us
> have said no-thank-you enough times for some of the lords to stop
>offering as
> often, in an effort not to offend us.  Regardless of garb, decoration
>and
> activities at events, we are still people from a harsher mundane
>world, and
> the lines we walk there carry over to our version of the middle ages.

Lady Elsa brings up a very good point.  I am by nature, I think, a
pretty polite guy.  Mom and Dad taught me to open doors for people, say
thank you and please, etc.  Now, my dear Lady is a modern woman of the
90's, and when we first started going out, she kept giving me grief
about always opening the car door for her, etc. ("I'm a big girl, I can
open a door by myself.")

It's an unfortunate fact of life that in today's modern world,  some
women feel they may be being condescended to if a man opens a door or
offers to carry something for her (we've gotten better -- she still
won't let me carry her gear for her at events, but at least she doesn't
give me That Look anymore when I open the car door for her :->)

Julien

who was very impressed at Northern Regional 12th Night when His
Highness, in addition to all the standard toasts given at feast, added
one to the Ladies of Fair Atlantia. :-)

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