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SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL




Greetings to Tadhg, as well as to the Cheapside Horde;

I am afraid that in the following note I am a little more emphatic,
(one might say rude) than is my wont.  I try hard not to be rude,
and I hope nobody will take it in the wrong way, but this is
the third time Tadhg has misconstrued me, and it is pissing me off.



I said (originally)

>>> Well, I would have said it another way: "the problem is that the SCA 
>>> guild doesn't correspond to anything medieval."

To which Tadhg responded a long post about all the advantages of SCA
guilds, and how they weren't as bad as I made out.

So I respond with

>> Tadhg, you totally missed what I said.  I said the SCA guild isn't 
>> anything medieval.  

And Tadhg come back with:  

>...and left me with the impression that you were comparing SCA guilds to 
>fairies, unicorns, and dragons, and wish we would please stop. 




Tadhg, you are a good friend.  Please read these three things over again
without any preconceptions.

The semantic content of my two quotes is exactly this:
	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
And what I meant to point out was exactly, and only, that.

I am NOT responsible for your "impression".  I don't care what your
impression was, please do me the courtesy of NOT PUTTING WORDS IN MY
MOUTH.

I did NOT compare SCA guilds to fairies, unicorns, and dragons.  I _DID_
compare them to medieval guilds, if only enough to show that they were
not similar.  Why do you say fairies/unicorns/dragons?  Why not say
aluminum shields/automobiles/telephones?  Why not say anything at all?
Stop treating my two statements above as an attack on the "morality"
or "utility" of SCA guilds.

If you want to discuss the use of the guild structure in the SCA, fine.
But stop setting up my comments above as a strawman to attack.

	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
	SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL

Don't read anything into that except EXACTLY what I said.  And IF you
disagree, then your response MUST include something that says 
	"No, Dafydd, SCA GUILDS ARE MEDIEVAL".
and hopefully follow it with evidence, proving me an idiot in this
issue.  Which would be fine.



If you want to say
	"SCA GUILDS ARE GOOD"
or	"SCA GUILDS ARE MORALLY CORRECT"
or	"SCA GUILDS ARE A GOOD WAY TO PICK UP BABES"
or ANYTHING ELSE,
fine.  But stop quoting my remarks about SCA GUILDS ARE NOT MEDIEVAL
as a preface to your argument.  Because the comments I made did not
say that SCA guilds are bad, morally wrong, or a bad way to pick up
babes.  I JUST SAID THEY ARE NOT MEDIEVAL.


Regards,
Dafydd



Postscriptum:
	Note that Tadhg is a good friend of mine.  I am more often
	rude to my friends than to strangers or enemies.