Dafydd wrote < So the period between Dirt and Stew (casually referred to as "before Stew") is that after Gyrth (1st Gen) won a Crown, but before Richard (2nd Gen) won a Crown.> Sorry, but I have to ask.... Does that mean that A.S. I should start with Gyrth's and Melisande's reign, and anything before that is B.S.? Aye, Eogan, who can still taste the milk from his mother's teats