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Re: Discuss: Heraldry question
Greetings from the harrying herald, Eldred!
%Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will) but hasn't Bryce de Byram
%been signing his correspondence (both email & paper) "THL Bryce
%de Byram" for a LONG time now? And I don't ever remember anybody
%even noticing, Byram being the hellion that he is.
[Byram, Eldred. Eldred, Byram. Eldred, Byram is an Anton squire and has
recently served as the Royal Bard. Tall guy. Funny. Not too loud. Sings
pretty well. Ring any bells? Hope so, because that's his lady's email
-Eldred goes on to say that-
an Atlantian who holds a Grant of Arms from Atlantia is not given the
title "THL", however if the accolade is given by another Kingdom,
then the title is recognized.
[I concur, and I think that that answers the previous question about
whether to announce so-and-so as the Most Right Honorable of the Order
of the Purple Kumquat.]
%IF you have been given the title and the only place that it makes a
%difference to you is in the OP, that would be Good.
Mmmmmm....irrelevant. I don't really see your point here.
[a) Main point - opposite of somebody for whom the title
matters enough to be picky enough to point it out to a herald.]
[b) Second point is that Byram isn't a fanatic about his "THL",
doesn't shove it in anybody's face, he just uses it.]
%If you REALLY want to have people know your place in the OP but don't want
%use an anachronistic term, ("Honorable") why not use "Lord by Grant of
%It isn't any longer/harder to say than "Honorable Lord" and probably isn't
%too bad, logistically speaking.
THAT is an EXCELLENT suggestion.
[Why, thank you! I do percolate a decent one every now and again.]
%BTW: A question on periodicity; is a Grant of Arms period or was it
%manufactured for the SCA? If not, then the whole brouhaha on "Honorable
%Lord" is kind of academic...
A Grant of Arms by Letters Patent is period. An Award of Arms is an
SCA invention to the best of my knowledge. The majority of the award
structure is completely at odds with period ranks of nobility.
[Then again, the whole SCA is at odds with period ranks of nobility,
since everybody is assumed [unless they specifically pick their
persona otherwise] to be of the rank of nobility that could get into
court. The massive percentage of people COULDN'T and that's one of
the reasons why it was so popular back then, kind of like an exclusive
club. I personally don't go much because I can rarely hear what's
going on (not the herald but the side stuff that makes court
entertaining is NEVER loud enough for me to hear) and I don't really
like to waste my time. I've been trying to figure out ways to
politely suggest a PA system for a couple of years now.]
[Gosh, Byram - and you thought you were FAMOUS or something! ;)
Talk to them, Twiki. Tell them you're not just a figment of my imagination!]
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