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disc: ONE Peerage, Different Orders, or No Order
Poster: Lance Harrop <email@example.com>
I see from the addresses above that I am speaking to both fair Atlantia
and noble East,
Greetings to you all.
Lady Solveig, and others before her, have suggested giving all Peers of
the Society one common title, Marquis. Also, that the Crowns of the
Laurel Kingdoms of the Knowne World have the power to make anyone worthy
a Peer of the Society. However, everyone seems to be missing the
flipside of this suggestion.
We could allow the Orders to make worthy candidates members without first
having them be peers.
When it comes to the chivalry, I particularly note the words of my
knight, Syr Strykar, who thinks we should be able to make hedge knights.
That is, accept that a squire or other fighter has achieved the fighting
ability and shown the common courtesy we expect, but who has not really
achieved peer status, by giving him/her a belt and the title (in period
rather lower then Lord) knight. Of course, only knights would make
knights, but it would not take the power of the Crown, nor would it
automatically elevate the candidate into the peerage.
Now I suspect that every Kingdom of the Society would want to have a
Royal Order of Chivalry, to which a King might invite a knight or
candidate to join. And I am sure that a lot of candidates might not
accept knighthood until they are offered membership in the Royal Order.
And of course the Royal Order might automatically include elevation to
the Peerage. And I wouldn't be surprised if some humble knights
currently in the Chivalry decide to keep their title as knight, but turn
down a distinct peerage, causing their own demotion.
But at least we would have corrected ONE misuse of terms in period, by
releasing "knight" to idenfity any capable warrior and reducing it in
rank to less then peerage titles.
As for Masters of Arms, I would expect them to group themselves into
schools with their own criteria for elevation from student to scholar to
Pelicans, I expect, would operate much like the Knights, and have a Royal
Order of their own in each Kingdom. After all, service to the Crown is
the highest virtue ;-).
Laurels, on the other hand, I expect to fracture into guilds and schools
and the like. Apprentices would become journeymen/women in time, and
higher titles might await a Royal license to open a shop, the period
requirement to become a "Master".
I suspect that Archery, Fencing, and so on would rapidly create their own
schools, with rules for elevation and such. Atlantia already has such a
system for Fencers.
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