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Re: A HERETIC'S view on Reasonable Authenticity -Reply -Forwarded -Forwarded




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I mearely want to add to this...thanks to ALL of you who have been so
supportive...and to Lord Kensei....May you NEVER be in a position to
HAVE to regret you words , may you never be one of US...you
know...THOSE people who really have "let " themselves go by having
only low paying hourly wage jobs which require over time merely to
subsist and feed their children...may you never have to justify  your self
worth or wants....
good  luck bubbie!!

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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 03:44:08 -0700
From: Maude  <maude@erols.com>
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Subject: Re: A HERETIC'S view on Reasonable Authenticity  -Reply
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> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:09:30 -0700
> From: Kensei  <kensei@concentric.net>
> To: DC.TEMP@novell.com
> Subject: Re: A HERETIC'S view on Reasonable Authenticity  -Reply
> 
> At 01:29 PM 11/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> >>>(Although,
> >>>frankly, I would wonder why someone would be spending money on
> >>>SCA if they
> >>>were in a serious economic position with bills and kids...but that's their
> >>>business.)
> 
> >obviously my dear you do consider it you business...else why such a
> >caustic aside?
> 
> My remark was not meant caustically; it was a personal
> observation/rhetorical question.  I'm sorry if it offends you personally.
> The foregoing said, my dear, since you took the time to give me your
> rationale for joining the SCA, I will be glad to provide additional comments
> below.
> 
> >I will tell you why a mother with a child,more bils than you can shake a
> >stick at, a 20 year old car, part time temporary work,an exhusband who
> >feels childsupport is an option to be excersized at his discretion,and
> >chronic health problems would be spending money on s.c.a.
> >my budget,if you can call it that has no real allowance for "entertainment"
> >but on the other handmy child would see nothing of the world or other
> >people if I did not take her somplace besiede school and church. a movie
> >costs $8.00 a pop in this area...a week end camping event usually  costa
> >about 15.00 for adutls , less for a child and there is usually a meal
> >included..my child spends at lease a day if not 1 + playing in the fresh
> >air or at least with her friend,being polite to people, eating good food and
> >seeing exsamples of decent adult behavior and enjoying the experience.
> >our  lives are pretty drabe most of the time...and money problems are
> >over whelming a lot of the time..but we deserve as much as anyone to
> >escape and we get more for our money than  a lot of other avenues
> >would giveus. I see the s.c.a. as cheaper than long term syciatric care
> >for stress related problems.as far as accourements to be able to keep
> >the gasps from being truly upset? we go dumpster diving..especialllly
> >closing day at pennsic. we also buy a lot of fabric that is recycleable at
> >the salvation army in the drapery department...6 dollars for a room full of
> >drapes can make a couple of dandy houpelands still make pouches for
> >12th night presents. I trade, barted and merchant to be able to afford
> >these little escapes from what I feel is a really harsh  world .I get to be
> >pretty, my skills and  abilities are valued and my child is safer than many
> >other places in this country. Those are feelings and memories that make
> >the drudgery worth it,life rather than exsistance.
> >you should really try being a bit less judgemental ...what was that about
> >a mile  walked in anothers moccasins?
> >maria beatriz  la mora
> >dumpster diver ,slavation army bargain hunter and rice and beans cook
> >extrodinair!
> >you wanted comments bubbie...you GOT EM!
> >
> 
> I'm glad that SCA provides so much for you and your child.  I'm was not
> knocking your participation, or that of anyone else's, should financial
> straits arise.  Furthermore, I get rather angry at being accused of being
> "judgmental".  If you don't like an opinion, fine, say so.  To judge
> someone, however, is to get personal--which I was not.
> 
> I'm sorry you have financial troubles.  I'm sorry life is so harsh.  There's
> not much I can say or do other than express my hope that things will improve
> for you.  As you are able to make ends meet for you and your child,
> participate in SCA, and obtain emotional, material, and spiritual assistance
> from SCA, more power to you.  What I was thinking about when I made the
> comment that so upset you are those participants who cannot afford SCA--in
> either time or money--yet participate to the detriment of themselves and
> their families.  In other words, how do --really-- poor people have the time
> to participate in SCA instead of working two or more jobs, if necessary, to
> provide a better life for their children?
> 
> As you are not one of those people, by your own admission, I can't see how
> you perceived my remark to be directed at you.  Hence, best of luck to you
> in your future SCA endeavours.
> 
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Dearest Beatriz,

Just a note of support for you my dear. The reply that you received in 
the above quoted e-mail just goes to prove that the writer is an insular, 
pompous twit! I think it is amusing this writer frees to comment, in an 
extremely judgemental fashion, upon a particular group of which he/she 
obviously knows little, and yet also feels that _you_ should not be able 
to comment or have an feelings/opinions about it, when you are obviously 
_much_ closer to the issue!!!  The SCA has many understanding and 
wonderful, sensative people in it ... this does not appear to be one of 
them. .... feel free to quote any or all of my message if you wish .. I 
fear no evil ... heh heh .... love Maude

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