Re: Period after the Rmon Empire?

[Dave Montuori <damont@wolfstar.com>]

Poster: Dave Montuori <damont@wolfstar.com>


Scripsit Tamar:
> IIRC the "fall of Rome" bit was from the time the actual City of Rome was
> invaded in 410 AD.  The theory was that Rome no longer counted as an
> effective empire when they couldn't protect their capital city, therefore
> the Dark Ages essentially began then.  The Holy Roman Empire, by using
> that name, admitted that they were not the actual Roman Empire any more.

Um, the "Holy Roman..." term was coined considerably later than the entity
itself. If you see a Carolingian coin, you will find it states "RENOVATIO
IMPERII ROMANI" (but in the correct cases etc.) -- as far as they were
concerned it *was* The Roman Empire, back again after a long vacation.

Is "Holy Roman Empire" a Renaissance term, or earlier? When did it come
into common use?

Evan

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