Re: Sailing Down Africa's East Coast

[Donald Wagner <polearmed@att.net>]

Poster: Donald Wagner <polearmed@att.net>

His Excellency is correct.

The Berbers were also considered tribal(less civilized) by the Arabs,
but they did well among the basques, and the remains of the visigoths.

Andalusia was no prize when the Muslims took it, but after a few
centuries of aqueduct construction and genius level irrigation, it
became a jewel for the taking.

BTW, it is nice to hear someone to call it the "Fall of Andalusia"
rather than some anti-climactic "Reconquista".

David KUIJT wrote:
> 
> Poster: David KUIJT <kuijt@umiacs.umd.edu>
> 
> On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Michael Jeffrey Looney wrote:
> 
> > And I had 2 questions arise:
> >
> > 1.  Is that who we get the style of "berber carpets" from?
> 
> Never heard of them.
> 
> > 2.  What's a "Berber"??
> 
> The Berbers are a race of North-African desert nomads.
> 
> The Arabs are Middle-Eastern desert nomads in origin; the expansion of
> Islam from Arabia in the 600s spread the Arabs out across the
> Mediterranean coast of Africa and into Spain.  In most cases outside
> Arabia they were only thinly spread as a ruling class over the native
> population.
> 
> Even though the Berbers converted to Islam in the initial explosive wave
> of the 7th century, conflicts between them and the Arabs were common; the
> civil wars that split Andalusian Spain into warring Berber and Arab
> principalities were a major cause of the fall of Andalusia in the 12th
> century.
> 
> Dafydd
> 
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