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Re: Mercs for Hire! (fwd)
Poster: Peter Adams <redduke@earthlink.net>
GO PEDRO!!!!!!
>From now on, Ill just be shooting off my mouth and let Pedro do all the
real documentation.
Anyway, I must also say that if you had suggested to the Burgundians
that they were simply a chip between two principles, you mopst certainly
would find yourself the subject of some obscure Auto de Fe. (albeit not
a formal church ceremony)
The attitude that there can only be two sides, and one principle to
each side is a medievally untenable idea, the crusades (sic em Pedro) in
particular demonstrating the fights over hierarchy among theorietically
allied kingdoms.
In fact, as far as I could ever tell, The dukes of burgundy were pretty
much involved in trying to figure out how they could become the KINGS of
burgundy. The French or English got Burgundian support based on how
that agenda would be advanced. (Im not looking forward to the post where
Pedro has to go "uh, sorry Badouin, but you are waaaaay wrong")
> I'd differ with you there. The fourteenth and fifteenth century
> dukes of Burgundy were people one would not do well to meddle
> with. One notes that the English lost their hold on northern
> France after the Burgundians pulled out of their old alliance
> after the failure at Arras in the 1430's-everything else was a
> holding action until the fall of Gascony in 1453. They were the
> overlords of the cities of Ghent and Liege and the other wool
> towns of the Low Countries, which poured torrents of cash into
> the dukes' coffers; they may have had more money to throw around
> than the kings of England at the same time (especially Henry VI).
>
> Until Louis XI came to the throne, the French provinces often
> acted a lot more like independent countries than like parts of
> one country. Although Burgundy is the case most often alluded to,
> Brittany, Anjou, and Foix are also good examples. Gascony I
> naturally exclude, inasmuch as it was held by one who was a
> monarch in his own right.
>
> In Service,
>
> Dom Pedro de Alcazar
> Barony of Storvik, Atlantia
> Drakkar Pursuivant
> Argent, a tower purpure between 3 bunches of grapes proper
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> Craig Levin
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