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Re: Discuss: Heraldry question

Greetings and Allah's Peace on our Kingdom!

Owner and Admin wrote:
> Greetings all good and gracious Rosettes,
> [ I just read a post from someone whose title is "The Honourable Lord..."
> and cleverly deleted the message before realizing that I had a question.  He
> stated that he uses the title since it annoys the heralds saying it isn't done
> in Atlantia.  I know that the title is not given in this Kingdom ...]
> At Ymir this year then King Cunan grant 2 gentles arms.  One of them, Falcone,
> was deeply honored.  The grant of arms is the only award or grant that he has
> ever gotten.
> Mostly the Grant of Arms is ignored because we don't put on as much pomp as the
> older kingdoms, because this does not mean we should ignore the individual.  If
> I were talking directly to the person I would say "lord/lady whatever" but if I
> were calling them to court or maybe even referring indirectly I would say "The
> Honourable Lord/Lady..."

You're right, Eoghann.  I was deeply honored by His Grace's kindness and

I spoke with Master Herveus at length concerning the conventions for the
title here in Atlantia.  In some Kingdoms, the GoA confers with it the right
of placing the initials "THL" before your name, and the perpetual recognition
of being referred to as "The Honorable" hoofty-froofty so-n-so.

In Atlantia, as you mentioned, the above conventions are not used.  The two
rights conferred here are: the right to wear a livery collar; accelerated
consideration in the Order of Precedence, which is also true in most other

I like Atlantia's customs just fine.  Master Herveus, a real nice guy BTW,
discourages the use of those other conventions in the Kingdom.  Yet, he
didn't object to my name being listed in another kingdom's publication, with
the "THL", when it was done so without my immediate knowledge.

I agree with the Triton Principal Herald.  These are part of what makes our
glorious kingdom different from the others. That should be cherished with
fervor and not changed until the Crown decrees it. IMHO, of course.

Besides, "Sayyid Falcone" sounds just fine to me, as well as "Falcone".

Sayyid Falcone;)
Donald Wagner                            Falcone al Rasool ibn Muhajir
Raleigh, NC                              Barony of Windmasters' Hill
Knowledge Engineer - AT&T                Kingdom of Atlantia
dswagner@attmail.com                     polearmed@worldnet.att.net

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