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Re: group size, status, was Principalities
Poster: email@example.com (Christopher M Dawson)
<<There is a fine line between CHARISMA and BULLSHIT>>
On Tue, 08 Apr 97 11:00:07 EST "David H Ritterskamp"
>Poster: "David H Ritterskamp" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> On Tue, 8 Apr 97, "Terry L. Neill" <Neilltl@ptsc.slg.eds.com>
> staying a shire or canton, even if the group is big enough to
> >be a barony, is quite an acceptable alternative to me. It
> >to the group. If they want to be a barony, fine. If not, fine.
> >I live there at the time, it's nothing to me. Neither form of
> >an advantage or disadvantage over the other.
> > - Anarra
> On this point, I have to disagree; one of the biggest reasons why
> Crannog Mor (years ago)
> looked at becoming a barony was because they felt that as a
> they didn't really have
> A) much in the way of respect for their autonomy (go figure!) or
> much recognition for anything they did.
> (A) They felt that as a shire, they could be ignored by nearby
> (which happened at least
> a couple of times, & they didn't like it) and as a barony, this
> wouldn't happen as much.
> One big nasty instance of this was a Giant's Dance that was held
> *within* their "jurisdiction" without
> so much as a by-your-leave, invitation to co-host, or any of the
> profits. They felt that had they had
> a Baron/ess, this likely wouldn't have happened.
> (B) Since a shire's only representation to kingdom is their
> & a barony has a baron/ess which
> answers directly to the throne, a shire couldn't really give the
> recognition & awards to its populace that
> the local group thought they deserved. They could write in for
> kingdom awards, but really, what's the
> ratio of kingdom awards to baronial awards? Nobody ever heard of
> shire award & yet shires are legally
> only slightly smaller than baronies. I think a shire had to have
> 10? something like that, whereas a barony
> has to have 25.
> I'm not going to get into who done what, but the above is (IMO) a
> fairly good example for baronial vs. shire
> status. A shire that expects to be around should go ahead and
> towards baronial status; there's no reason
> not to (except for the politics that this move would engender)
> many reasons to do so.
> Ld. Jonathan Blackbow
> House O'Shannon
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I believe you are incorrect about a shire's size, all that is needed is 4
people. Seneschal, Herald, Exchequer, and either a Knight Marshal or a
Minister of A&S. Am not quite sure as a Corporea booklet is unavailable
to me right now.
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